House Forsaken Whines Again

November 16, 2005
House Forsaken Whines Again
Filed under: General — Charles Rector @ 3:55am
Source: HF Forum Thread .

As previously related, the once mighty multi-game clan > House Forsaken
that once ruled the roost in games varying from battle.net to Solar
Empire has fallen on hard times and has dwindled into nothing more than
a forum clan. Like most other clans that have declined into impotence,
the decline and fall of HF was largely self-inflicted in that its
leaders at some point stopped enforcing high standards for the
membership and began to excuse the inexcusable such as members engaging
in cheating in games. In the case of HF, cheating and the like came to
be more or less endorsed by the clan leadership. The HF leadership has
also become progressively lamer and lamer.

In a recent HF Forum thread, the forum clanners heaped scorn on some of
this writer’s previous postings about the fallen clan. In the course of
doing so, they made some unintentionally revealing statements.

For instance, according to former HF big shot Laminad:

that can be argued both ways… normally bad PR is that… bad PR. it may
put light on you where it wouldn’t before, but negative is negative.

and instead of being upset… i suggest that you guys/gals pull the clan
together and prove him wrong. not saying it isn’t, but the more work you
guys put into HF, the more silly he looks. HF isn’t like the old days
and certainly isn’t fulfilling its potential. However, it is possible to
be better than the old days and being better than when charles rector
was part of it.

until then, i would forget about him. the more reason you show, the more
unreasonable he is going to get (the point was proven last time i tried
to say something).

Let’s see, back when I joined HF in the Fall of 2000, the clan had over
400 active members who were mostly gamers as well as forum participants.
By Spring, 2003 when I left, the clan had fewer than 100 members ranging
from barely active to very active. The only effective gaming unit in HF,
the Browser Based Gaming Realm was in the process of completely
dissolving. Today, HF is completely absent from active gaming and
consists of only a couple dozen or so forum participants. It would take
one Hell of a lot of effort for the current version of HF to even become
as effective as it was back in 2003 let alone in 2000. As for my being
“unreasonable,” Laminad had lied his head off about HF’s supposed
prominence in Worlds of Warcraft and even claimed that Stratics was
going to run an “interview” about HF on their website. To this day, no
such interview has surfaced.

Finally, this thread has been in existence for 2 weeks before this
writer got around to posting about it. Frankly, I did not know if I
should laugh or cry when reading it. The very fact that HF has failed to
fix its website problems months after they first manifested themselves
just goes to show how unserious about gaming HF has become. As for the
claims that HF is now involved in Eve and is a major power in that game,
then why are none of this writer’s Eve playing friends aware of them?

7 Comments »
Why is this writer still interested in the goings on in HF? That post by
Laminad is part of an attempt to rescue what I agree was once a good
community.

Do not criticize recklessly without expecting a response. Much of the
leadership of HF has grown tired of the state of online gaming. Do not
confuse their dissatisfaction with incompetance. Many outside HF would
agree with them. Running a strong clan requires a volunteered investment
of time.

I also dispute your notion that BBG was a big part of HF. This was only
true for a relatively short period and was the case only because the
other games that HF was active in had become less popular(not only
within HF but also outside) as well as the fact that BBG was a fairly
inclusive recruiting power. I do not recall anyone ever being denied HF
BBG membership.

Comment by Bryan Krause — November 16, 2005 @ 10:13am

Where to start?

Here’s Laminad’s post to the OMGN Forum in which he made untrue
statements such as the alleged interview at Stratics. Note how he wanted
some previous posts that did not have that much to do with HF knocked
off.

I’m not “criticizing recklessly.” If anything, it was very moderate
given the sheer number of things that I could have brought up. Unless HF
in Eve (where I have since learned they have 24 members and are part of
a “Confederation”) should follow the path of HF in such games as
Shadowbane, Worlds of Warcraft among others and mass recruit dozens of
newbies only to abandon them when some HF big shots get tired of the
game, this should prove to be the last post here at The Nexus about HF
for quite some time.

As for BBG, true it was never a big realm, but it was consistently far
more active than most of the other realms in HF. Why is it that the
likes of Specters Alliance that has never claimed to be the model clan
for all others to follow have sustained gaming activity much better than
HF? Ditto Reign of Elysian that was born from the remnants of Forsaken
Union that in turn was originally the Everquest and Shadowbane realms of
HF before they split off?

If the HF leadership really has “tired of the state of online gaming,”
then why not formally set HF up as a forum clan or better yet as a forum
website for online activities? HF could become reoriented around other
activities and be a viable online presence.

In any event, for the next few months I hope that this will be the very
last thing that I write about HF.

Comment by Charles Rector — November 17, 2005 @ 9:10pm

Evidently that URL did not take in the previous comment. Here it is
again along with Laminad’s post in full:
http://omgn.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=218

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:48 am Post subject: Crector

——————————————————————————–

Hey guys. sup Darq, Crector, and friends?

Hey Crector, I was wondering if you could do me a favor? Well, we have a
huge interview being posted on Stratics for World of Warcraft. Normally
when something big comes along, I check out where we our name is posted.
I go to Google and type in “House Forsaken” and see where it pops up.

Well, two days ago when I did it I noticed an unfortunate thing. On
Nexus, you have a few negative items that, well, aren’t really nice or
factual. I believe you and I have always been on good terms and hope to
get it squared away.

First off, I don’t know what happened in TDZK. Although I was active at
the time, I most likely left fora few days sicne in 2003 I had a few
week conferences to attend in different areas of the country. I was told
it was how you approached it that got Dave angry. Not sure. It was a
couple years ago and to be honest, things have changed since then… a
lot.

We are not just a forum guild. Although at times between hot games many
members do use it as an escape. Right now HF is doing very well for
itself. In WoW we have 82 members/recruits on archimonde. As I said
before we have done so well that Stratics just did an interview with us
to be posted next week. For CS we recently had a game where within two
maps, 22 members showed up. 12-16 at a time throughout both maps. We
also last CAL season had three teams. We aren’t a real big FPS
competitive team (cal-o), although we do have fun. For communications we
have seen up to 57 users in our IRC channel and 120 members now use
XFire. Our teamspeak server has got much better now that it is required
by wow members and recruits. The forums are still active with 250-400
posts a day. Our web site gets 1.1 million hits a month. References to
clan-forsaken.com are wrong. it now redirects to our main domain,
houseforsaken.com.

Since back from army basic training, I have closed all dead games and
soon to close two more. Unlike most games, members jump very quickly
from game to game until they hit something big… like CS… or WoW. It
always stinks because we work hard to plan, but then members decide
otherwise. I guess that happens when we at times put family over
structure. Some games though have been a dissapointment. SWG sucked so
members went on to planetside. From PS, we at one time had it rocking
with over 45 recruits, then our realm leader went inactive and the
recruits all left.. lol.. Or SB where the game was hyped and sucked so
badly that after beta, only a small handful of members actually got it.
However, when that happened, memebrs started planning slowly for WoW. We
hit it strong and aren’t looking back. Why? Because history is history

So to all that, I was wondering again, lets please help us by putting
anything in the past back there. if you could kindly do so, we would
appreciate it.

November 29th
http://www.omgn.com/nexus/index.php?p=157

November 26th
http://www.omgn.com/nexus/index.php?p=145

November 15th
http://www.omgn.com/nexus/index.php?p=74
_________________
Laminad, Director
House Forsaken

Established 1996
Strike First - Strike Hard - No Mercy
laminad@houseforsaken.com

Comment by Charles Rector — November 17, 2005 @ 9:12pm

why do you care so much about what HF does? Simple question. I suspect
you can’t answer it.

Comment by exicuter — December 19, 2005 @ 1:08am

I can answer this. Because he still cares for HF. He was guild director
for a number of years, which he did solely because he cared for HF. Even
though he is no longer a member, he still cares for us, because HF quite
simply touches its members, usually in a very positive way. You, on the
other hand, never went outside “Browser Based Games”, never spent time
with the people that bothered to pay for their games. Hell, you never
even played a game with us that didn’t require the use of a web browser.
So how could you know ANYTHING about HF?

The simple answer is, you don’t.

You’re so caught up in getting revenge, because one paticular member
cheated, a member that no one remembers and isn’t even in the guild
anymore.

I’m not going to pretend I know what happened back then. I don’t. I,
like the majority of HF, never paid much atention to the BBG. Why?
Because you kept to yourselves. You never interacted with the rest of
HF. You always segregated yourselves.

What I do know is that you sir, feel the need to continually put down
HF. Well, go ahead. I’m not going to try and stop you. You wouldn’t
listen to anything I said anyways. No point in trying to redeem
ourselves, because you’re already hell bent and writing about something
you know nothing about and anyone else doesn’t care about. So go ahead,
waste your time. No one is going to hear you anyways.

Comment by Rheem — December 19, 2005 @ 10:51am

PresBMK… hah… you’re still alive :o

Comment by yoden — December 20, 2005 @ 9:20pm

where are you getting this info? sounds like you’re quoting yourself

Comment by Hero — December 21, 2005 @ 10:48pm

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